"The human rights declaration, passed by Southeast Asian leaders at their ASEAN summit in Cambodia, actually allows human rights violations, says Verena Harpe of Amnesty International Germany."
Deutsche Welle: After a lot of
hemming and hawing, the 10 ASEAN nations ratified a human rights
declaration at their summit in Cambodia. That actually sounds pretty
good. However, your organization has sharply criticized the declaration.
Why?
Verena Harpe: Thet text of the document
has now been published and from Amnesty International's point of view I
must say that this human rights declaration absolutely does not deserve
the name. We demanded up to the end that this text not be ratified
because in its current form it simply undermines international human
rights standards.
Our criticism is that the document
imposes all sorts of limitations on human rights. For example, rights
can be restricted if they endanger public security, public morals, or
public order. These are very foggy phrases that just open the door to
abuse. At another point in the text it says that human rights and basic
civil rights must be weighed against public duty, and that is something
that does not coincide with the concept of human rights.
Verena Harpe is an Asia expert for Amnesty International Germany
Does the declaration basically reflect your expectations, or is the text, in your view, worse than you feared?
We did not expect the text to be
satisfactory because even in the run-up to its ratification there were a
number of problems and the whole process was not at all transparent.
Civil society was excluded from participating and there were almost no
consultations. As a result, we did not have especially high
expectations, and what
actually ended up in the declaration really undermines the standards
that even the ASEAN nations had set for themselves; for example, at the
human rights conference in 1993. So, you could say we were negatively surprised.
Against this backdrop, is this human
rights declaration a farce for you, or is the fact that such a document
was even passed essentially something to be viewed positively?
The way it stands now you would simply
have to say that this human rights declaration permits the violation of
human rights. On the basis of this declaration – if you had evil
intentions – you could criminalize people who peacefully express
different political opinions. That is something that happens to some
extent in ASEAN member countries. In the last few months there was a
case in Cambodia where a 71-year-old man was sentenced to 20 years in
prison based on absurd accusations. Bloggers in Vietnam have also
received draconian sentences. So, of course, you have to say that on the
one hand it is good that steps are being taken to create regional
mechanisms, but the form in which this is happening is anything but
good.
You mentioned that some of the 10
ASEAN members face criticism due to the human rights situation in their
countries: Vietnam, for example, where the Communist leadership
increasingly uses a heavy hand in dealing with regime critics, or
Myanmar, whose military junta is slowly opening after decades of
repression, but where human rights violations are still a common
occurrence.
This is certainly the case – and a big
problem, especially in Myanmar. Of course, there have been reforms
there, but even after the last amnesty due to the visit by [US President
Barack] Obama, many political prisoners continue to sit in jail, and
there are still grave human rights violations in ethnic minority areas. A
very good example is what happened in Cambodia prior to the ASEAN
summit. People were badgered and bullied who had wanted to organize and
meet on the sidelines to protest against the human rights declaration.
In the run-up some details about the
declaration were leaked and the Cambodian government simply turned off
the electricity of those people and closed their meeting places. Hotels
and guest houses were harassed and intimidated and told not to provide
lodging for these people. That is the reality in some ASEAN countries
and so we are concerned that this human rights declaration will give
such practices even more legitimacy.
ASEAN members have very different
political systems – from young democracies, like the Philippines and
Indonesia, to constitutional monarchies, like Cambodia and Thailand, to
authoritarian states like Malaysia and Singapore and communist one-party
systems like Vietnam and Laos. With that kind of broad spectrum, is it
even possible to speak with one voice on issues like human rights?
Yes, there is a very wide spectrum. At
Amnesty International we are not really interested in what specific form
of government a country has. For us, the only thing that counts is that
human rights are observed.
But, depending on the form of government, those conditions can be better or worse…
That is true, of course, but I must say
that also in countries like Indonesia or the Philippines we have seen
serious human rights violations. Certainly, it is a process, but we
expect from a human rights declaration that it, at least, sets standards
that are not below those that have been internationally recognized, and
that then you work to improve the situation in the individual
countries. But, the fact is, that the ASEAN human rights commission
established in 2009, for example, cannot accept individual complaints
and only works on a consensus basis. That is a long way off from what
other regional human rights mechanisms can do, for example in Africa or
Latin America, where there are also countries with poor human rights
records. But there, they do have a declared goal - and that is exactly
what we criticize about ASEAN.
Is anybody listening to this criticism?
We have been criticizing for many years.
Together with many other organizations – international human rights and
civil society groups in ASEAN countries – we have written an open
letter and conducted a lot of lobby work, but we have noticed that at
the moment we are not really getting through to the ASEAN states.
We are hoping that the international
community will make it clear to ASEAN members that what they are doing
is not acceptable. The United Nations has also said that the current
declaration is not good. Now, it is also time for the German government
to make clear in bilateral contacts with ASEAN countries that the
international community expects more and that international human rights
standards are binding – for all countries.
Verena Harpe is an Asia expert with Amnesty International Germany.
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